Hi, Spring fans! In this installment, Josh Long (@starbuxman) talks to Google Cloud Developer Advocate (and mentor, and friend!) James Ward (@_JamesWard) about his podcast Happy Path Programming (@HappyPathProg), programming, software, Spring Native, and his work at various organizations like Adobe, Heroku, Lightbend, SalesForce, and now Google Cloud.

嗨，Spring 粉丝们！在这一期中，Josh Long (@starbuxman) 与 Google Cloud 开发者倡导者（以及导师和朋友！）James Ward (@_JamesWard) 讨论了他的播客 Happy Path Programming (@HappyPathProg)、编程、软件、Spring Native 以及他在 Adobe、Heroku、Lightbend、SalesForce 以及现在的 Google Cloud 等不同组织的工作。